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Module 55 min read

After You Invest

Managing a live position: where the stop belongs, how the two stop order types fail differently, and when to take money off the table.

In summary
  1. 01Decide the exit before you enter. The moment a position is falling is the moment you are least able to think about it clearly.
  2. 02A stop-loss and a stop-limit fail in opposite directions — one fills at a bad price, the other may not fill at all.
  3. 03Trimming a winner back to its position cap is risk management, not weak conviction.

Protecting the downside

5.1A stop belongs where the argument breaks

A stop is a price decided in advance at which you accept the thesis was wrong. Its purpose is not prediction — it is making the decision while you are calm. Place it beneath a level the share has defended before, or beneath the point where your reason for buying stops being true. An arbitrary 10% below entry will be triggered by ordinary daily noise in a volatile name, for no informational reason at all.

Stops belong on individual positions. A broad index fund held for years is protected differently — by time, and by the cash buffer from module 1 — because a stop on it tends to sell during exactly the kind of fall broad indices have historically recovered from. The Model Portfolio holds its base tier without one for that reason.

5.2The two order types fail in opposite directions

This distinction is worth more than it appears, and most people learn it the expensive way.

Exhibit 1Stop-loss against stop-limit
Stop-lossStop-limit
What triggers itPrice reaches your stopPrice reaches your stop
What it then placesA market orderA limit order at your price
Fills?Almost alwaysOnly at your limit or better
Fails whenPrice gaps far below your stop and fills therePrice gaps below your limit and never fills
SuitsGuaranteeing an exitControlling the price you accept
Note: Gaps are the point. A share closing at €20 and opening at €14 on bad news never traded in between: a stop-loss at €18 fills near €14, and a stop-limit at €18 does not fill at all while the position keeps falling.

5.3Size the position from the risk, not the conviction

Decide the maximum percentage of the account you will lose on any one position — this site defaults to 1.5% — then work backwards to a share count. A wider stop produces fewer shares, so a more volatile idea automatically receives a smaller position without any act of will.

Exhibit 2Sizing a position, worked
InputValueDerivation
Account size€5,000Your investable capital from module 1
Maximum risk per position€751.5% of €5,000
Entry price€20Your buy zone
Stop price€17Below the level the share has defended
Risk per share€3Entry less stop
Shares to buy25€75 ÷ €3
Capital committed€50025 × €20
Note: You commit €500 and risk €75. Position size and risk are two different numbers, and confusing them is the most common sizing error.

The same arithmetic on your own account size is below. Widen the stop and watch the share count fall on its own — that is the mechanism doing the work, not a judgement about how brave to be.

Shares to buy
25
Cash at risk
€75
Position cost
€500
Reward / risk
3.0:1
Clears the 3:1 rule of thumb at 3.0:1. You commit 500 and risk 75 — those are two different numbers, and confusing them is the most common sizing error.

Ten consecutive losses at 1.5% would cost about 14% of the account — a dreadful run, and the number that decides whether it is survivable or terminal.

What this means for you

At 1.5% per position, ten consecutive losses — a genuinely dreadful run — costs about 14% of the account. At 10% per position the same run leaves you with a third of your money and no realistic path back.

Check yourself
You hold a share at €20 with a stop at €18. Overnight, bad news takes it from a €20 close to a €14 open. What happens to a stop-LIMIT order at €18?

Managing a live position

5.4A target price is a thesis written down

A target is an estimate of what a share would be worth if a specific argument proves correct. It is not a forecast and certainly not a promise. Its real value is forcing the argument to be explicit, so you can check whether the reasoning still holds when the facts change.

Compare the distance to the target with the distance to the stop: that ratio is reward against risk. It tells you how often you need to be right just to break even — half the time at 1:1, one time in three at 2:1, one time in four at 3:1. That is why many investors will not open a single trade below 2:1 or 3:1.

Note

Every pick on this site shows its entry zone, stop and 12-month target, so you can work the ratio out yourself. Many sit below 2:1: they are longer-term setups with room below for normal swings, not short trades. A low ratio is not automatically wrong, but it means the argument has to be right more often, so check it before you act.

5.5Trimming is not a loss of nerve

A winner that doubles becomes a much larger share of your portfolio than you originally chose. Selling part of it back to your intended cap is not doubting the company — it is declining to let one position quietly become your entire outcome. The alternative is a portfolio whose risk profile was set by luck rather than by you.

Exhibit 3The position review table
TriggerActionRationale
Price hits the stopExit in fullThe thesis is broken; the decision was made calmly in advance
Price hits the targetSell, or re-underwrite with a new target and stopThe original argument has played out
Position exceeds your capTrim back to the capConcentration was set by price movement, not by you
The thesis breaks before the stopExit — do not wait for the stopA stop protects against being wrong, not against new information
A quarter disappoints, thesis intactHold; note itOne quarter is noise unless it changes the argument
Note: The fourth row is the one experienced investors act on and beginners rarely do. A contract loss or a regulatory decision can invalidate the case at a price well above your stop.

Rehearsing these while nothing is at stake is the point. Every one below is a position that has just done something — decide before you read the reasoning.

1 of 50 right
SizeThis holding is flat while the rest of your portfolio has fallen. It is now over your cap without having risen at all.
Position valueUnchanged
Portfolio value−25%
Weight now15%, cap 10%
It held up precisely because it is the defensive name you bought it to be.
What do you do?Decided in advance, not in the moment.

5.6How often to look

Stops and thesis breaks need attention when they happen; everything else can wait for quarterly results. Daily monitoring of a long-term position produces anxiety and trading, in that order, and neither improves returns.

What this means for you

Before buying anything, write down three numbers and one sentence: entry, stop, target, and what would have to go wrong for you to sell early. If you cannot fill in all four, the position is not ready.

Check yourself
A position you sized at 8% of your portfolio has trebled and is now 20% of it. Your cap is 10%. The company is performing exactly as you hoped. What does the discipline say?
Apply it

The position sizer on Stock Analysis turns an entry, a stop and your account size into a share count. My Portfolio then tracks every open position against the stop you set.

My Portfolio